T-7A Red Hawk news

[TOPOLO]

Boeing semble avoir un problème systémique avec les FLCS...
(Pourtant les F-18 étaient vraiment au top...)

Saab a sont lot d'histoire aussi avec ce genre de soucis sur le Gripen, ce serai intéressant de savoir de qu'elle partie ça vient

C'est pas faux ! (C)

[warbird2000]

Nouveau retard de production pour le T-7

Suite à un problème lié à l'éjection et au siège, l'usaf ne prendra pas la décision de production
avant février 2025 au lieu de décembre 2024

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/04 ... d-of-2025/

[JulietBravo]

Boeing semble avoir un problème systémique avec les FLCS...
(Pourtant les F-18 étaient vraiment au top...)

Dans l’article l’utilisation du singulier est étonnante, car cela semble faire un lien entre le FCS et l’« escape system »…

The problem, which was first reported by Air Force Times, involved a glitch in the flight control software and escape system.

[Deltafan]

Article Defense News, avec le titre : Key milestone for new Boeing trainer aircraft delayed to 2027

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/04 ... d-to-2027/

Boeing’s T-7A jet trainer aircraft is not expected to reach initial operational capability until spring 2027, three years later than originally planned, the Air Force said.

The Air Force’s next jet trainer has struggled with problems such as a potentially dangerous escape system and ejection seat. Earlier in April, the Air Force acknowledged those troubles, and the time needed to fix them, caused it to delay a milestone C production decision to February 2025. Boeing is now expected to deliver the T-7 in December 2025.
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[Deltafan]

Article ASF, avec le titre : GAO: Boeing Unlikely to Meet Revised T-7 Schedule

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/gao-t ... le-boeing/

The T-7A trainer, already two years behind schedule for production and initial operational capability, will probably see further delays, the Government Accountability Office said in a new report. And even when the initial production airplanes arrive, they may not meet Air Force requirements because they’re being built before the service signs a contract with Boeing specifying what they should be.
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Even if everything goes right from here on, the GAO said, USAF will have to extend the life of the 60-year-old T-38 trainer because of T-7A delays.

The agency recommended the Air Force conduct a schedule risk assessment to examine the concurrent development, testing, and production in the program, as well as “risks related to contractor management.” The GAO also urged the service to figure out “under what conditions it would accept production work completed“ before signing a contract for the jets.
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Key problems with the T-7 involve its escape system—which has problems safely ejecting smaller pilots—as well as software and flight controls. Air Force acquisition executive Andrew Hunter told Congress in April the T-7A won’t achieve IOC until early 2027—missing its initial target of 2024 and slipping beyond a subsequent goal of 2026, which the service and Boeing set late last year. The delay is due to the Air Force delaying Milestone C—the full-rate production decision—until February 2026, to give more time to fix the escape system and other issues, and test those changes out in flight test, Hunter told Air & Space Forces Magazine in an email.
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Boeing built two pre-production prototypes T-7As during the T-X Advanced Pilot Training Aircraft competition and has largely completed the first five aircraft that will be used for test flights. But it is also starting to build the first production aircraft before the flight test program even begins.

Given that the escape system and other issues are not resolved—the report notes there have been thousands of changes made to the design since Boeing won the T-X competition in 2018—GAO said the Air Force could wind up paying for airplanes that don’t meet final requirements determined after testing.
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The T-7A was billed from the outset as a revolutionary program, its digital design influencing everything from the aircraft shape and systems to the layout of the factory floor. Boeing brought its two prototype T-Xs from the drawing board to the flightline in under 36 months, and, relying on anticipated cost avoidance, bid as much as $10 billion below what the Air Force thought the trainer fleet and its associated simulators and coursework would cost.
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While the Air Force hasn’t yet ordered any jets beyond the five test aircraft, Boeing began producing parts in March 2022 and plans to start building more aircraft in early 2024. But since it hasn’t signed a contract, the usual oversight of production isn’t taking place, the GAO said, noting in the absence of a contract, the Defense Contract Management Agency can’t exercise any oversight, either. There’s no way at this point for the Air Force to know that the parts being built for early production T-7As are of proper quality.
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Boeing is also three years late in providing a complete “bill of materials,” necessary for the Air Force to begin planning its organic maintenance of the trainer, the GAO said. The service is also waiting on other sustainment data from Boeing.

The Air Force doesn’t expect the first production T-7A to be delivered until December 2025 at the earliest. The T-7A program calls for 351 of the supersonic trainers to be built, along with 46 high-fidelity simulators. The Air Force’s new “Reforge” fighter pilot training overhaul may increase the number of T-7As the service could buy. The development contract calls for up to 475 aircraft.

Not too big to fail ?

[warbird2000]

Given that the escape system and other issues are not resolved—the report notes there have been thousands of changes made to the design since Boeing won the T-X competition in 2018—GAO said the Air Force could wind up paying for airplanes that don’t meet final requirements determined after testing.

Franchement inquiétant

[warbird2000]

Enfin le premier vol du T-7A

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/t ... rst-flight

Sinon belle machine

[geoffrey_be]

un mini-F-18 ?
Enfin pas si petit que ça vu la taille des pilotes.
Faudrait une photo à côté d'un Alpha Jet...

[jojo]

un mini-F-18 ?
Enfin pas si petit que ça vu la taille des pilotes.
Faudrait une photo à côté d'un Alpha Jet...

C’est carrément ça.
Après le premières démos du F-35 j’avais dit qu’il volait comme un (Super) Hornet. Coïncidence ?

Par contre il est super léger
3 250kg à vide, 5 500kg de masse max, même avec son « simple » F404, il doit avoir un sacré rapport poussée/ poids !

[tanguy1991]

un mini-F-18 ?
Enfin pas si petit que ça vu la taille des pilotes.
Faudrait une photo à côté d'un Alpha Jet...

C’est carrément ça.
Après le premières démos du F-35 j’avais dit qu’il volait comme un (Super) Hornet. Coïncidence ?

Par contre il est super léger
3 250kg à vide, 5 500kg de masse max, même avec son « simple » F404, il doit avoir un sacré rapport poussée/ poids !

Tiens, c'est marrant qu'ils n'aient pas monté le F414 plutôt. Question de place j'imagine

[jojo]

un mini-F-18 ?
Enfin pas si petit que ça vu la taille des pilotes.
Faudrait une photo à côté d'un Alpha Jet...

C’est carrément ça.
Après le premières démos du F-35 j’avais dit qu’il volait comme un (Super) Hornet. Coïncidence ?

Par contre il est super léger
3 250kg à vide, 5 500kg de masse max, même avec son « simple » F404, il doit avoir un sacré rapport poussée/ poids !

Tiens, c'est marrant qu'ils n'aient pas monté le F414 plutôt. Question de place j'imagine

As-tu vu comme il est léger ?

[Deltafan]

Article ASF, avec le titre : USAF Now Ready to Accept T-7s, Will Start Flight Tests in ‘Coming Weeks’

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-f ... t-testing/

The Air Force will officially take ownership of its first production-representative T-7A trainer jet “in the coming weeks” and quickly move into flight testing from contractor Boeing’s St. Louis facility, a service official said last week.

After that, the first two Red Hawks will transfer out to Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., in the “September-ish” timeframe to continue testing, T-7 division chief Col. Kirt Cassell told reporters at the Life Cycle Industry Days conference July 31.

In April, Air Force acquisition executive Andrew Hunter announced that the T-7 won’t achieve initial operational capability until early 2027—three years past its original 2024 goal. Then the Government Accountability Office said in May that the Air Force-Boeing relationship was “tenuous,” and predicted Boeing might not even meet the revised 2027 timeline.

Cassell said the Air Force and Boeing have since reset their relationship. “There have been leadership changes,” he said. “At the PEO level and at my level within Boeing, they reorganized kind of wholesale. … And so there was a lot of changeover, which actually just gave us a whole new fresh set of eyes. I have a new deputy that came on the program. So we got a new fresh set of eyes and we really just reinvigorated our relationship.”

In May and June, the first production-representative T-7 started undergoing taxi tests, then took its first official flight with an Air Force pilot.

Behind the scenes, Cassell said, the Air Force and Boeing have been working together to ensure flight testing can start as soon as the first jet, dubbed T-2 or ATP-2, is officially transferred to the Air Force.
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Shortly after ATP-2 is accepted by the Air Force, the service hopes to take ownership of a second aircraft, called T-1 or ATP-1. The two airframes will test different factors—flight sciences and loads, respectively, Cassell said.

“There’s little to nothing standing in our way to getting this jet, ATP-2, up and running,” Cassell said. “We’ll start flight tests at St. Louis. And then in or around the September-ish timeframe is when we’ll transition APT-2 and then, following up on that, APT-1 out to Edwards for continued flight testing.”

Getting the T-7 back on track and avoiding any more delays will likely be crucial for satisfying lawmakers who have expressed concerns about the program. Hailed at its unveiling as proving how digital engineering and design are breakthrough technologies for accelerating product to market, the first production-representative aircraft went from drawing board to first flight in 36 months.

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In 2021, the Air Force said the T-7 suffered from “aircraft wing rock” at high angles of attack, making it unstable in the roll axis. Issues arose with the jet’s flight control software, and then came questions about the trainer’s ejection seat system—which had been required to accommodate a wider range of body sizes. USAF and Boeing sparred over the test data and how to interpret it.

This May, Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall suggested digital engineering had been “over-hyped” as a way to cut development time and cost, cautioning that there are no shortcuts to real-world testing.

Boeing and the Air Force now say the T-7’s issues have largely been corrected. But lawmakers are skeptical. A provision in the House version of the National Defense Authorization bill would require the Air Force to assess the “risks associated with the overlap of development, testing, and production phases of the program and risks related to contractor management.” Whether that provision survives the House-Senate conference to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill remains to be seen.

[warbird2000]

Question intéressante que certain ici se sont déjà posée

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/11/0 ... e_vignette

The impending mid-1940s decommissioning of the 600-plus F-16 aircraft currently utilized by the United States necessitates considerations regarding replacements.

[ironclaude]

Question intéressante que certain ici se sont déjà posée

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/11/0 ... e_vignette

The impending mid-1940s decommissioning of the 600-plus F-16 aircraft currently utilized by the United States necessitates considerations regarding replacements.

Je suppose qu'ils voulaient dire " mid-2040s ", sinon ça serait Mission Impossible, Retour vers le Futur, Nimitz...

[warbird2000]

Un article plus complet sur la possibilité de transformer le T-7 en F-7

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/air ... e=hs_email

[Deltafan]

Article Défense News, avec le titre : Boeing pushes back T-7 plans due to faulty parts

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2024/02 ... lty-parts/

Boeing said Friday that quality problems with parts slated for the T-7A Red Hawk training jet mean it will delay by several months delivering the next test aircraft to the Air Force.

Boeing is also now planning to start low-rate initial production on the T-7 in mid-2024, several months later than the company’s original plan. Boeing vice president and T-7 program manager Evelyn Moore told Defense News Friday that supply chain issues were also why the company will postpone the planned start for its production schedule. Boeing’s contract with the Air Force requires it to deliver the fourth and fifth engineering and manufacturing development jets in December 2023 and January 2024, Moore said. However, Moore said, the parts problem now means the fourth jet will probably be delivered later this month, and the fifth jet around March or April.
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Moore would not detail the type of parts that had problems, but said they were multiple parts of varying sizes from several different suppliers. Boeing had to send some parts back to their original manufacturer for repairs, she said, and already suppliers have started quickly fixing the faulty parts. The fourth jet now has all of its necessary parts installed, Moore said, and Boeing expects the “handful” of remaining fixed parts for the fifth jet to arrive over the next few weeks. Moore said Boeing has a quality team working with its suppliers to understand what went wrong with the parts and address the problems.

Boeing is now assembling the new T-7 production line at its St. Louis facility, she added, and expects that to be done by mid-2024. Shortly after that production line is ready, she said, Boeing plans to start assembling LRIP T-7s. A Government Accountability Office report in May 2023 said Boeing planned to start assembling its first production T-7 in early 2024. Moore said Boeing could be ready to deliver the first production T-7 in 2025, though she said there is a chance it could be 2026.

Boeing is required to start delivering T-7s 10 months after the Air Force issues an LRIP award, which could come in February 2025. Moore said that by starting production before the LRIP award, the company could deliver jets before its 10-month deadline. The Air Force expects to make a Milestone C decision on whether to produce the T-7 in February 2025, and for deliveries to start in December 2025. That planned production decision timeline is about two years later than the Air Force originally intended.

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[Deltafan]

Article Aviation Week, avec le titre : U.S. Air Force Reveals New Yearlong Delay For T-7

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... -delay-t-7

The U.S. Air Force has pushed back the in-service date by about another year for the Boeing T-7 Red Hawk to 2028, adding further delays to a program originally expected to be fielded this year.

The latest delay for the Air Force’s next primary jet trainer appeared with no explanation in the justification documents that the Pentagon submitted on March 11 to Congress to start the fiscal 2025 appropriations process. The delays add further schedule and cost pressure to one of the five fixed-priced defense and space programs that have cost Boeing more than $12.8 billion combined over the past decade. Boeing has reported $1.33 billion in reach-forward losses so far on the T-7 program.

Despite the schedule delay, the Air Force slightly reduced the total spending on research, development, test and evaluation (RDT&E) for the T-7 program, with total estimated costs falling by $1.33 billion to $1.3 billion. But the Air Force decided to request $233 million in fiscal 2025 to buy only seven Red Hawks, or half the total in last year’s plan for the same period.

The Air Force also plans to buy a total of 351 T-7As, including five test aircraft.
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[Deltafan]

Article The War Zone, avec le titre : Japan Wants T-7 Red Hawk As Its Next Trainer: Report

https://www.twz.com/air/japan-wants-t-7 ... ner-report

Recent reports from Tokyo suggest that Japan is looking to acquire the Boeing/Saab T-7A Red Hawk, or a derivative of it, as its next-generation jet trainer. Indications are that the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) wants the successor to its current Kawasaki T-4 to be the same platform as used by the U.S. Air Force, to enhance commonality and cut costs compared with building a new trainer on its own.

According to a recent report in the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper, the Japanese and U.S. governments are already “coordinating to jointly develop a successor to the Japan Air Self-Defense Force’s T-4 trainer.” As part of the program, the source states that Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida will soon visit the United States, where a related agreement will be signed. Prime Minister Kishida is scheduled to make a state visit to Washington on April 10.
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A confirmer, donc.

[warbird2000]

Le Japon est un des plus fidèle clients des us
Quand vont-il commander des F-15EX ?

[ironclaude]

Article The War Zone, avec le titre : Japan Wants T-7 Red Hawk As Its Next Trainer: Report
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Quelle surprise

[tanguy1991]

La volonté de produire localement existe aussi au Japon, peut-être plus probable de voir une version propre a eux, a l'image du F-2.

Tant mieux pour Boeing et Saab si ils arrivent a exporter leur T-7.

[warbird2000]

La volonté de produire localement existe aussi au Japon, peut-être plus probable de voir une version propre a eux, a l'image du F-2.

Tant mieux pour Boeing et Saab si ils arrivent a exporter leur T-7.

Le F-2 était issu d'une coopération avec LM. Ce n'est pas pour rien qu'il ressemble à un F-16 avec une aile plus grande.

Le remplacant du F-15 doit être en principe dévellopé avec les anglais et les italiens.
le Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP)

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/uk ... technology.